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further update from the AC and German ministry
by Christoph Then 28 May '20

28 May '20

Dear all I received another note from Josef Kratochvil: > It is not likely there will be a physical meeting of the AC at end of June. The whole situation will delay any decision making. We should not be afraid of quick decisions. > we should think about to run oppositions against the patents we mentioned, also thinking about oppositions in Czech Republic which are supposed to be very cheap, we might look for some companies/ organisations to do so (I do not think we can afford - but this shows, our examples work) The problem with Unified Patents still should be followed. (I wonder if Katherine would like to discuss this with Austrian government? I again can try to render attention in German Bundestag) I also received a short not from German Ministry (Pakuscher) stating they will read with case, as always. Cheers Christoph

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further updates: Dolder
by Christoph Then 28 May '20

28 May '20

Patent attorney Dolder gave a short opinion on G3/19 in German (see below) In short he says: > the EBoA should have taken into account decisions of the ECJ which requests that laws can render their intended effects (I am not sure if relevant for EPC). > the decision G3/19 should also extent to older cases (indeed, the document as prepared by the former President gives some explanations which are in contradiction with G3/19 - however the G3/19 gives some reasons: They say that their decision is not just an interpretation of the EPC which already was valid all the time. This is mentioned by former President as a reason why 28(2) has to be applied to all pending case. G3/19 says, the meaning of law has been changing within last years [due to no patents on seeds ;-)]. Therefore, they want to introduce a transitional period. I think this will require further debates) smart wording of the claims can easily allow to escape rule 28 (2). (in this regard, he mostly refers to patents on selection of plants which are still allowable. We might re-discuss if we should again raise this problem - our current position is that these patents should not be granted. However, they are not as strong as patents on products.) I sent him our letter and asked for further comments. "Auf den letzten vier Seiten endlich höchst widerwillig die vernünftige Anwendung von Art. 53 (b) anerkannt und den absoluten Blödsinn von G 2/12 und G 2/13 widerrufen und sich dabei fast die Zunge abgebissen vor Widerwillen. Leider ohne die Doktrin des “effet utile” oder den Grundsatz der Effektivität (so nunmehr der EuGH) oder den gesunden Menschenverstand zu erwähnen: EuGH (Zweite Kammer), 21. Juni 2017(*), ECLI:EU:C:2017:484 26 Der Grundsatz der Effektivität erfordert hinsichtlich der Verfahrensmodalitäten für Klagen, die den Schutz der dem Bürger aus dem Unionsrecht erwachsenden Rechte gewährleisten sollen, dass diese Modalitäten die Ausübung der durch die Unionsrechtsordnung verliehenen Rechte nicht praktisch unmöglich machen oder übermäßig erschweren (vgl. in diesem Sinne insbesondere Urteil vom 10. April 2003, Steffensen, C‑276/01, EU:C:2003:228, Rn. 60 und die dort angeführte Rechtsprechung). Die von der Gr BK angeordnete Nichtrückwirkung verstösst zudem in flagranter Weise gegen den Erlass des Verwaltungsrats, also des Gesetzgebers, vom Juni/Juli2017. Mit Rechtssicherheit (natürlich immer nur zugunsten der Patentinhaber, nicht auch der Patentkonsumenten !) hat dies nichts zu tun: Denn alle Patentanmelder / Patentinhaber mussten schon vor 2017 jederzeit damit rechnen, aber umgekehrt auch alle Patentkonsumenten (NGOs) durften schon vor 2017 jederzeit hoffen, dass Art. 53 (b) endlich vernünftig und zum vollen Nennwert, also auch auf Erzeugnisse des smart breeding, angewendet werden würde. Dass die Entscheidung G 3/19 leider in der Praxis der Saatgutmultis nicht viel verändern wird, da Art. 53 (b) viel zu leicht durch smart claim drafting umgangen werden kann, habe ich bereits auf den letzten zwei Seiten meiner amicus curiae dargelegt."

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further reaction
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

we were advised to sen our letter to Committee on Patent Law putting, VP5 (I think this the respective departement in EPO, we already had contact) and the President of the EPO. I will prepare to do so. I will also ask them for reactions and then, after double checking, we could proceed with final letter to all members of the AC. I will not to it today, so if you have further comments, let me know.

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German letter sent and first reaction
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

Dear all please see German letter as sent. Further, we already received a first answer from the chairman of the AC, Mr. Kratochvil, stating: "Dear Mr Then, Let me to thank you for your letter and inform you that according to the EPC (Art.28) the Board of the Administrative Council is by far not the body relevant to discuss legal matters of whatever nature (unless mandated by the Council). As you know perfectly well, the EPOrg disposes with CPL, advisory body to the Council on patent legal matters. The maximum what I can do is to INFORM about receiving of your letter. Yours sincerely, J.Kratochvil" So I guess our letter arrived and we can look forward for some more reactions ... :-) I have to admit, I am not so sure about the role of the Board, however, having looked to the Calendar of the EPO, I was not aware of any other official meeting to prepare the meeting of the Council. At least we did not miss this meeting with potential relevance.

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letter sent
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

please if needed, use the version as attached

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final letter for sending
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

Thanks fo your comments and especially to Johanna to detect final mistakes. this is the version I now will using for official communication. Still 15 Minutes to stop me...

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Deutscher Brief an Ministerium (bitte bis 11 Uhr finale Kommentare)
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

Liebe Alle hier noch einmal die deutsche Version des Briefes etwas aktualisiert. Ich glaube dazu gab es noch keine Kommentare / Korrekturen, ich würde den Brief dann gegen 11 Uhr an die Runde schicken, die beim Gespräch im Ministerium dabei war. Grund ist die morgige Sitzung des Präsidiums des Verwaltungsrates. Ich nehme an, da ist das auch BMJV irgendwie involviert. ok? dann bis später. Danke! Christoph

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final draft letter for today / deadline 11 am
by Christoph Then 27 May '20

27 May '20

Dear all please see attached the final draft version of the letter and Annexes - edited by native speaker - I added some final passages on scope of patents derived from our Report from 2018 (after thinking about comments from Katherine) all final changes after editing are marked. If I receive no further comments, we will send off at 11 a.m. to the secretary of the Admin C and Mr Kratochvil. I now try to prepare a German version of the letter which then would be send together with Annexes in English to German Ministry of Justice. I will come back to you on this version asap. Cheers Christoph

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revised letter
by Christoph Then 26 May '20

26 May '20

last changes marked. please come back with final comments tomorrow before 11 am. I parallel I will try to get final edits from native speaker. thanks for your great constructive cooperation!

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Conference call
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 26 May '20

26 May '20

Dear all, detailed minutes of today's conference call will follow. In short: The Board of the Administrative Council meets on 28 May (to prepare the meeting of the AC on 30 June). So we agreed to finalise our letter asap and send it to the Board of the Administrative Council tomorrow. We want to have another conference call in 2 weeks. Could you please fill out the doodle until this Thursday (28 May) / 1 pm so that we can fix a date Thursday afternoon? https://doodle.com/poll/2r3tuuy6si3byn6y (11 June = holiday in some countries) Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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