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new draft of the new report
by Christoph Then 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

several changes: most recent figures from Ruth and Johanna (Pinto) included (also in the graphics). One additional graphic on accumulated patents per company (adopted from the website of Ruth). new version of the figure on differences between GE and conventional breeding (thanks to Johanna) several chnages adopted as proposed by Katherine: more on the need to act in the summary, the patent research moved up (one graphic deleted), also included a nice example / case study. Bram, to you have to send this example to BASF/ Nunhems? no problem. I already sent it off for English editing, but till end of upcoming week still time to send comments. Thanks to Martha and Johanna and Ruth for first round of corrections! cheers Christoph

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two important dates and a proposal with a deadline (also important)
by Christoph Then 15 Feb '21

15 Feb '21

dear all on 16 November we will have a hearing on the fish patent (sorry wrong date in the documents sent for the meeting) on 8 July we will the conference at the German Ministry of Justice. the proposal made by WeMove: They want to start their petition just about a week before the meeting of the Admin Council on 23 March. They would like to hand it over to the EPO on 22 or 23 March, supported by our 'screaming vegetables' (and together we No Patents on seeds!). Any objections? I guess we still will have some additional signatures to be handed over end of June. In case please let me know till end of the week. Cheers Christoph

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Important: agenda for the meeting with EPO (with a deadline)
by Christoph Then 11 Feb '21

11 Feb '21

Dear all, I received the question about the points we would like to discuss. I would like toe answer tomorrow before around noon. see below my draft mail, following the ideas from last year. on the participants: Ruth, Katherine, Erling, Martha, Bram, Francois, Matthias, Johanna & me. did I miss anybody? thanks for yor reaction! Christoph Dear Jean Luc, thank you very much for coming back to us! we suggest the following topics: (1) follow up on the points raised in our first meeting (by also taking into account the new version of the Guidelines for Examination): can patents on random mutagenesis be excluded under current patent law or would it need a change of the EPC? which implications may patents on cells derived from plants and animals (derived from essentially biological methods) have? how can the scope of patents be limited? Would it be possible to end up absolute product protection for patents being granted under Art 53 b? Would it need a change of the EPC? (2) Decision making can we expect decisions to be taken by the Administrative Council in first half of 2021 to sort our the contradictions between G1/08, G2/07 and the documents CA/PL 4/17, CA/56/17 and CA/PL 4/20 in regard to the definition of essentially biological processes? if not, can we expect the President of EPO to announce a further staying? if the open questions in regard to the definition of essentially biological cases are left to case law of the EPO, how much time would it might take to come to legal certainty? (3) are there any plans to enable participation of civil society in future meetings of the Administrative Council? (4) some outline of a potential further process for ongoing exchange of arguments between the EPO and No Patents on Seeds!. We also considered the duration of the meeting and suggest to extend it up to two hours. During next week, we will come back with a list of participants have a nice weekend! Christoph Then

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IMPORTANT: Documents for meeting of members 2021
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

Dear all, please be informed that I just sent all the relevant documents for our meeting of members via Proton. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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IMPORTANT first draft of the new report (feedback until 12 February)
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 10 Feb '21

10 Feb '21

Dear all, as mentioned in today's conference call, could you please come back to us with your feedback on the report until the end of the week (12 February)? We can then continue with edits and the translation into German. Thank you! Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.org www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed -----Original Message----- From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Christoph Then Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:18 AM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] first draft of the new report (docx version) dear all please see attached the first draft of the new report. It uses lots of parts from the previous one. However it follows another logic: The focus now is on the loopholes, while last time we did not know the outcome of G3/19 and therefore had to take a wider approach. more recent figures from overall patent applications and pinto will be added. I especially like figure 3 which repeats what we are saying about the differences between GE and random mutagenesis, and was produced with public money to educate public on advantages of New GE.... I will try to organise a slightly adopted version. I can give a short introduction in the zoom meeting we have today and tomorrow. cheers Christoph

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Conference Call 9 February 2021 - Minutes
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 09 Feb '21

09 Feb '21

Dear all, please find attached the minutes of todays conference call. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:21 AM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] IMPORTANT: Conference Call 9 February 2021 - Agenda Dear all, please find below the draft agenda for our conference call next week. Best, Johanna --- 1. Updates 1.1. Updates from the countries / organisations 2. Next steps / Strategy 2.1. Report 2021 2.2. Meeting with EPO beginning of March 2.3. Public activity for Admin. Council (23 March)? § Produce more sculptures of the screaming vegetables? 3. Other 3.1. Email communication / labels Proposal: Label Content such as Important - Information in regards to the Meeting of Members (date, documents, preparation) - Information in regard to Conference calls (date, agenda, minutes) - Information about a planned press release, taking quotes - Decisions that have to be taken / Feedback needed no label - drafts and edits of press releases and reports - details of planned activities - updates, news on patent issues 3.2. Communication between German and English speaking members § Translation for Meeting of Members? § Coordination between conference calls in English / German 3.3. Next conference call Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:35 PM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> Subject: [Npos_2018] IMPORTANT: Conference Call 9 February 2021 Dear all, thank you for filling in the doodle. Our next conference call will be on Tuesday, 9 February 2021 from 13.30h to 15.00h CET. Please find the access details below. Best, Johanna --- Topic: Conference call No patents on seeds! Time: Feb 9, 2021 01:30 PM Amsterdam, Berlin, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82629354500?pwd=eFRhejh5VDNvQTlDVkxiZUJRYjJtQT09 Meeting ID: 826 2935 4500 Passcode: 857104 One tap mobile +431206093072,,82629354500#,,,,*857104# Austria +4312535501,,82629354500#,,,,*857104# Austria Dial by your location +43 120 609 3072 Austria +43 12 535 501 Austria +43 12 535 502 Austria +43 670 309 0165 Austria +43 72 011 5988 Austria +32 2 788 0172 Belgium +32 2 788 0173 Belgium +32 1579 5132 Belgium +32 2 290 9360 Belgium +32 2 585 5574 Belgium +32 2 588 4188 Belgium +45 47 37 25 75 Denmark +45 89 88 37 88 Denmark +45 32 70 12 06 Denmark +45 32 71 31 57 Denmark +45 32 72 80 10 Denmark +45 32 72 80 11 Denmark +49 30 5679 5800 Germany +49 69 3807 9883 Germany +49 695 050 2596 Germany +49 69 7104 9922 Germany +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands +31 20 794 6519 Netherlands +31 20 794 6520 Netherlands +31 20 794 7345 Netherlands +351 308 804 188 Portugal +351 308 810 988 Portugal +351 211 202 618 Portugal +41 43 210 71 08 Switzerland +41 44 529 92 72 Switzerland +41 22 591 00 05 Switzerland +41 22 591 01 56 Switzerland +41 31 528 09 88 Switzerland +41 43 210 70 42 Switzerland Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/keu2WrjfA0 Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 8:50 AM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> Subject: [Npos_2018] Conference Call February Dear all, please fill in the doodle for our next conference call in February until Sunday, 24 January evening. https://doodle.com/poll/kgr8rfudxcg9n9gt?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/kgr8rfudxcg9n9gt?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Thank you! Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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! important: meeting with EPO on 3rd March
by Christoph Then 09 Feb '21

09 Feb '21

The EPO says: I am pleased to inform you that the meeting with Mr Ernst, Vice-President Legal/International Affairs and yourself will take place on Wednesday, 3rd March 2021 at 10.00, and that one hour has been foreseen for our discussions. so now I will send them some more informations about them participants. I also will be contacted re the agenda. anybody else wants to join?

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draft new report (pdf)
by Christoph Then 08 Feb '21

08 Feb '21

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first draft of the new report (docx version)
by Christoph Then 08 Feb '21

08 Feb '21

dear all please see attached the first draft of the new report. It uses lots of parts from the previous one. However it follows another logic: The focus now is on the loopholes, while last time we did not know the outcome of G3/19 and therefore had to take a wider approach. more recent figures from overall patent applications and pinto will be added. I especially like figure 3 which repeats what we are saying about the differences between GE and random mutagenesis, and was produced with public money to educate public on advantages of New GE.... I will try to organise a slightly adopted version. I can give a short introduction in the zoom meeting we have today and tomorrow. cheers Christoph

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neuer Brief an Bundesjustizministerin Lambrecht (zur Kenntnis)
by Christoph Then 05 Feb '21

05 Feb '21

this letter was sent today, after discussion with German members of the organisation. it already includes the analysis of the recent documents from EPO as sent - I will also try to include these details into the draft report. please do not circulate the letter at this stage.

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