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Meeting of Members 2021
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

Dear all, for those who haven't done it yet: may I remind you to update the doodle <https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e> (I added new dates). We still don't have a good result. Could you do so until tomorrow, 19 Nov, evening? Thank you very much! Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:28 AM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] Meeting of Members 2021 Dear all, thank you for filling in the doodle. There was no date that suited everyone. So I added more dates. May I ask you to update the doodle until Tuesday, 17 November evening? https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [ <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:35 PM To: <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] Meeting of Members 2021 Dear all, we'd like to fix a date for our meeting of members 2021 at the beginning of March. Could you please let us know what date suits you until Thursday, 12 November / 9 am CET? https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Later on we'll decide if we'll make a physical or an online meeting. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Conference call - End of Nov.
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Dear all, thank you for filling in the doodle. Our next conference call will be on Tuesday, 24 November from 10.30h - 12.00h CET. We'll schedule a German conference call, too. Please find the Zoom details below. Best, Johanna --- Topic: Conference call No patents on seeds! Time: Nov 24, 2020 10:30 AM Amsterdam, Berlin, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84876954408?pwd=bnFCQUJEemRFUUlPREkrZzcweUEyZz09 Meeting ID: 848 7695 4408 Passcode: 954676 One tap mobile +4312535502,,84876954408#,,,,,,0#,,954676# Austria +436703090165,,84876954408#,,,,,,0#,,954676# Austria Dial by your location +43 12 535 502 Austria +43 670 309 0165 Austria +43 72 011 5988 Austria +43 120 609 3072 Austria +43 12 535 501 Austria +32 1579 5132 Belgium +32 2 290 9360 Belgium +32 2 585 5574 Belgium +32 2 588 4188 Belgium +32 2 788 0172 Belgium +32 2 788 0173 Belgium +45 32 70 12 06 Denmark +45 32 71 31 57 Denmark +45 32 72 80 10 Denmark +45 32 72 80 11 Denmark +45 47 37 25 75 Denmark +45 89 88 37 88 Denmark +49 30 5679 5800 Germany +49 69 3807 9883 Germany +49 695 050 2596 Germany +49 69 7104 9922 Germany +31 20 794 6519 Netherlands +31 20 794 6520 Netherlands +31 20 794 7345 Netherlands +31 20 241 0288 Netherlands +31 20 794 0854 Netherlands +351 211 202 618 Portugal +351 308 804 188 Portugal +351 308 810 988 Portugal +41 22 591 00 05 Switzerland +41 22 591 01 56 Switzerland +41 31 528 09 88 Switzerland +41 43 210 70 42 Switzerland +41 43 210 71 08 Switzerland +41 44 529 92 72 Switzerland Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kd324yG9Kw Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:51 AM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] Conference call - End of Nov. Dear all, may I ask you to fill in the doodle for our next conference call until Tuesday, 10 Nov. evening? Thank you! https://doodle.com/poll/64487h7d563mw6sz?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/64487h7d563mw6sz?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link I chose dates a bit sooner so that we have enough time to plan possible activities around the Admin. Council on 15/16 Dec. Christoph has a meeting with Germany on 25 Nov., so depending on the date of our call, we might be able to include more info in our discussion. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Update Patent Law Committee
by ARCHE NOAH Katherine Dolan 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Dear all, I spoke to the Austrian Patent Office about the Patent Law Committee last week - some good news, some not so good. There was a substantial discussion on the issue, even though the EPA had only put it on the agenda for information: · AT, DE, IT and NO were critical of patents on random mutagenesis / doubtful that it is a technical process, and said there was need for further action / clarification · AT also raised concerns about the practicability of the disclaimer (no other country said it had a problem with the disclaimer, however) and called on the EPA both to continue the discussion on plant patents and to present a document providing more detailed argumentation on the current approach to random mutagenesis, including how random mutagenesis is assessed in patent applications in the contracting states, and a comparison of how the disclaimer is working in the area of plants compared to other areas - apparently the disclaimer is a widely used tool that works well in other sectors but only because the terms are well defined, in contrast to "essentially biological process" · DE called for active monitoring of the issue, and for an evidence-based approach based on the results of the monitoring. · CZ and BE supported Germany's call for monitoring. · NL and FR said random mutagenesis is a technical process and therefore patentable, DK said it didn't have any problems with this topic · NL, FR, DK and CH also strongly opposed further clarification of "essentially biological process". CH said it wasn't the role of the legislator to clarify in detail every term · The EPA concluded that it wants to continue the debate but also wait for cases examined by the new rules so there can be an evidence-based approach. The issue won't be on the agenda of the Admin Council in December. In terms of next steps from Austria: · The German Patent Office asked for a meeting (probably next week) with the Austrians to discuss next steps and understand the Austrian critique on the disclaimer. · The Austrians are very motivated to keep the discussion going - the Minister may still write to selected other Ministers - but they see limited scope to do this without further cases / events to respond to. My thoughts: · Based on the above, I am not sure that to call for a moratorium is the right way to go. We should try to keep the pressure up other ways, but it sounds like ultimately we will need patents on random mutagenesis assessed in line with rule 28(2) to really close this issue. · It is roughly four against four in the Administrative Council. We should continue our discussions with other countries to get more on the side of DE, AT, IT and NO - and seek an ongoing dialogue with NO and IT? · We will have to really make use of the open mutagenesis cases (barley, salad?) to push home why these patents are problematic, even though these ones will be assessed via the old rules · Pushing for further changes to define essentially biological processes in national law seems to still make sense, as a way to keep the pressure on the issue in the meantime. It would be great if we could e.g. have a joint initiative from AT, DE, IT when they implement the UPC. · Is there some other way we could try to expose the different legal interpretations on random mutagenesis to create problems for the EPA, e.g. in a case before a national court? Best Katherine Katherine Dolan ARCHE NOAH Leitung Politik / Head of Policy +43 (0)676 557 4408 ---------------------------------------------------------- ARCHE NOAH - Gesellschaft für die Erhaltung der Kulturpflanzenvielfalt und ihre Entwicklung / Association for the conservation and development of crop diversity Obere Straße 40, 3553 Schiltern www.arche-noah.at<http://www.arche-noah.at/> ---------------------------------------------------------- PS: Die Vielfalt braucht jetzt dringend Ihre Stimme! Jetzt hier Petition "Vielfalt säen, Gesundheit ernten" unterschreiben.<https://arche-noah-petition.sicher-helfen.org/pet/gesundheit-ernten/?cf=url> Für mehr Vielfalt auf Äckern und Tellern! PPS: Wir sind bei der Rettung der Vielfalt auf Sie angewiesen - jetzt spenden<https://arche-noah.sicher-helfen.org/archenoah/spende/?cf=www&payment_inter…>. [cid:image001.jpg@01D5C5FE.BDE05B60]

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Article Bioscience Law Reveiw
by francois.meienberg＠prospecierara.ch 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

Dear All Attached a new article by Michael Kock which may be of interest. (not for publication as it is an article of a journal where access is on payment ) Best François PS: Etappensieg! Nach über 10 Jahren Kampf zusammen mit der Koalition «No Patents on Seeds» hat das Europäische Patentamt Patente auf konventionell gezüchtete Pflanzen verboten. <https://www.prospecierara.ch/de/erleben/news/news-detail/news/patente-auf-k onventionell-gezuechtete-pflanzen-verboten.html> Mehr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ProSpecieRara Schweizerische Stiftung für die kulturhistorische und genetische Vielfalt von Pflanzen und Tieren François Meienberg - Projektleiter Saatgutpolitik Tel. direkt +41 (0)61 545 99 19 Sekretariat +41 (0)61 545 99 11 (vormittags) ProSpecieRara, Unter Brüglingen 6, 4052 Basel Spendenkonto CH29 0900 0000 9000 1480 3 <http://www.prospecierara.ch/> www.prospecierara.ch <https://www.facebook.com/ProSpecieRara> auf Facebook <https://www.instagram.com/prospecierara/> auf Instagram

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update on screaming vegetables
by Christoph Then 17 Nov '20

17 Nov '20

These are the original templates, They will be reproduced in paper and stabilized and colored .. looks good to me! LG Freia

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Telefonkonferenz Deutsch, 26.11.
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

[Conference call in German] Liebe Runde, unsere Telefonkonferenz auf Deutsch findet am 26.11. von 11.30h 13.00h CET statt. Die Zoom-Info findet ihr weiter unten. Liebe Grüße, Johanna --- Thema: NPOS Telefonkonferenz Deutsch Uhrzeit: 26.Nov.2020 11:30 AM Amsterdam, Berlin, Rom, Stockholm, Wien Zoom-Meeting beitreten https://us02web.zoom.us/j/86897870128?pwd=QThLS3lHTE9kZzdZcnNqYXMzMmR5UT09 Meeting-ID: 868 9787 0128 Kenncode: 846529 Schnelleinwahl mobil +4312535502,,86897870128#,,,,,,0#,,846529# Österreich +436703090165,,86897870128#,,,,,,0#,,846529# Österreich Einwahl nach aktuellem Standort +43 12 535 502 Österreich +43 670 309 0165 Österreich +43 72 011 5988 Österreich +43 120 609 3072 Österreich +43 12 535 501 Österreich +49 30 5679 5800 Deutschland +49 69 3807 9883 Deutschland +49 695 050 2596 Deutschland +49 69 7104 9922 Deutschland +41 31 528 09 88 Schweiz +41 43 210 70 42 Schweiz +41 43 210 71 08 Schweiz +41 44 529 92 72 Schweiz +41 22 591 00 05 Schweiz Ortseinwahl suchen: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kc88w5HVoM Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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! planning for meeting with EPO
by Christoph Then 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

Dear all I will propose some points for the agenda for our online meeting with the EPO on 4 of December. the following colleagues have noted their interest in the meeting: Johanna, Ruth, Bram, Francois, Katherine - correct? points for the agenda could be: (1) update from the meeting of the patent law committee and outlook to the Admin Council: Are our points taken on board? was there any substantial debate? Can we expect any decisions? (2) follow up on the points raised in our first meeting: 2.1. can patents on random mutagenesis be excluded under current patent law or do we need a change of the EPC? 2.2. which implications will patents on cells derived from plants and animals have? how can it be excluded that patent claims are deferred to plants and animals? 2.3. how can the scope of patents be limited? Is it possible to stop absolute product protection for patents being granted under Art 53 b under current patent law or do we need a change of the EPC? (3) are there any plans to enable participation of civil society in future meetings of the Administrative Council? (4) outline of the further process for the ongoing exchange of arguments I think we should ask the meeting should last longer than the first one (I propose two hours). please let me know your comments till Thursday, if possible. Thanks! have nice evening! Christoph

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Meeting of Members 2021
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 12 Nov '20

12 Nov '20

Dear all, thank you for filling in the doodle. There was no date that suited everyone. So I added more dates. May I ask you to update the doodle until Tuesday, 17 November evening? https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:35 PM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: [Npos_2018] Meeting of Members 2021 Dear all, we'd like to fix a date for our meeting of members 2021 at the beginning of March. Could you please let us know what date suits you until Thursday, 12 November / 9 am CET? https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Later on we'll decide if we'll make a physical or an online meeting. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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should we plan / mobilise a new public appeal?
by Christoph Then 10 Nov '20

10 Nov '20

dear all just for your consideration: Annemarie, in our last phone call, proposed to call for a new moratorium for patents on conventional breeding. I think, as a tool for mobilisation, this might work. If we find out that there is not enough political activity in the patent law committee and the Administrative Council, we could try to raise another round of signatures, starting around the meeting of the AC mid of December. We could use the visuals of the 'screaming vegetables' to support the start of our campaign. please consider and let us discuss as soon as we have more insight in the outcome of the patent law committee. have a nice evening Christoph

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Meeting of Members 2021
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 05 Nov '20

05 Nov '20

Dear all, we'd like to fix a date for our meeting of members 2021 at the beginning of March. Could you please let us know what date suits you until Thursday, 12 November / 9 am CET? https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/6wkg8a67g45gv65e?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Later on we'll decide if we'll make a physical or an online meeting. Best, Johanna Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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