November 2021 - Npos_2018 - lists.testbiotech.de

final draft for Monday PR on fish (after English editing) / Lanka?
by Christoph Then 12 Nov '21

12 Nov '21

I think we still need a sign off from Lanka. It is planned to send it out on Monday in the morning. Thanks to Johanna.

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final drafts for the backgrounder on fish (after English editing)
by Christoph Then 12 Nov '21

12 Nov '21

I hope Johanna will work on it and get it online on Monday. Thanks a lot!!

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confusion about ongoing activities - overview
by Christoph Then 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

dear all this is just to give an overview on ongoing activities which seem to happen all at the same time: the hearing on the fish patent next week: see the other texts and E-Mails. There will be a further mail how to access the hearing. the petition: We will have zoom conference on 17 to decide upon next steps. I suggest to only have one conference for German and English the planning for next year: a draft was sent on proton. At this stage it is open for comments and discussions. Decisions will be taken next year at our meeting. the beer patents: There are specific activities of Arche Noah and WeMove which we try to follow, but these are not coordinated by No Patents on seeds. workshop in Brussels: on 19 there is a workshop in Brussels, organised by Arche Noah. I am not sure if you could join online. Just ask Dagmar. the Melon patent opposition: next TO DO on my list. So especially this week (for preparation) and next week many things go on on parallel. Cheers Christoph

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! once more: the Media release for the announcement of the hearing / Georg, Lanka and Verena please check
by Christoph Then 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Dear all this text might have escaped your attention. Sorry for sending all these texts on the fishes, but they follow a simple strategy which we also used in other cases: Announcement, backgrounder and result. there are some quotes. Richard Mergner and Giulio seems to be fine with their sentences, Lanka, Verena and Georg dis not respond. We have to send this out Monday morning, together with the backgrounder. this version now goes out to English editing. cheers Christoph

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Re: [Npos_2018] Fwd: update on barley and beer patents
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

Dear Giulio, great! Thank you for editing the video again and for your flexibility! The video looks great! Thanks for your work! Looking forward to see the response to the video once it will be published! Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Giulio Carini [mailto:giulio@wemove.eu] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 5:29 PM To: Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>; 'Christoph Then' <info(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>; npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Subject: Re: [Npos_2018] Fwd: update on barley and beer patents Thanks! Yes we will publish the interviews very soon. Here is the edited video with just the protest and we cut out the pub scene. We added just a quick voice over with text that Christoph and Johanna approved to give context on Carlsberg with the phrase: The Danish beer company Carlsberg filed a dozen applications to patent certain types of barley that are used to make beer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7mA3bIJGbw We will add subtitles shortly. Thanks again, On 10/11/2021 16:42, Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org wrote: ... and to add that Giulio said that they have much more good video content with the interviews of the activists (our member organisations) that they will publish on youtube in the future! Thanks Giulio! Would be great to have those videos! Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Christoph Then Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 3:24 PM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> ; Giulio Carini <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> <giulio(a)wemove.eu> Subject: Re: [Npos_2018] Fwd: update on barley and beer patents Dear all we had some concerns that the first part of the video (in the Pub) raises problems because of factual errors. But it looks like this first part will deleted and therefore I would have no further concerns. The spokespersons of the EPO seemed to aware that they got recorded. We will not mention their names, not to trigger any personal shit storm. So I think they can stay in the video. thanks to Giulio for his flexibility and great cooperation. cheers Christoph Am 10.11.21 um 13:04 schrieb Christoph Then: let us have a look on the video ... -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: AW: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents Datum: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:28:24 +0100 Von: Giulio Carini <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> <giulio(a)wemove.eu> An: ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler <mailto:magdalena.prieler@arche-noah.at> <magdalena.prieler(a)arche-noah.at>, Christoph Then <mailto:info@no-patents-on-seeds.org> <info(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>, npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> <npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de> Hi Christoph and Magdalena, Below is a preview of the video. We still need to add subtitles. We will publish it very soon once we add subtitles and will send to our members to share on Carlsberg's social media pages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6x23acPrA We are of course not professional actors but we tried our best to explain issue so as many people as possible can absorb it easily. I understand as well that it's much more complicated of an issue and that we lose a bit with this level of simplicity:) Thanks again On 10/11/2021 11:43, Giulio Carini wrote: Hi Magdalena! I will send the video asap as soon as we finish final edits. It should hopefully be before lunch time:) We wanted to try to tell a story and make the issue simple for people to understand. Speak in a bit, Giulio On 10/11/2021 11:28, ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler wrote: Dear Christoph, dear Giulio, dear all, thanks for the news! It would be great to see the video, indeed. We can refer to it in our newsletter coming out next week but would need to have it until today in the early afternoon to be able to include it still. Is that possible? In any case we are already very curious to see it! :) Regarding the meeting with Austrian and German breweries we followed the NPOS suggestion to combine those two in a meeting as we see it as a good fit. Together with Johanna we plan to talk with them about how they can best support our common campaign. If anyone still has ideas on that or wants to join the meeting you are more than welcome to do so. We suggested the 15th at 11.30, but the date is not set yet. Best, Magdalena -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2021 09:07 An: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> ; Giulio Carini <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> <giulio(a)wemove.eu> Betreff: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents Dear all, I did not get any response from Carlsberg and Heineken so far. So I guess, WeMove can start its videos. I would be happy to have some preview to prepare for reactions, in case needed. It also would be gerat to see the text before which will be sent to the supporters. Arche Noah asked for a meeting with the breweries for Monday next ẃeek. They also asked the German brewers to take part. Also Johanna wants to participate in the meeting. Since several organisations are quite active on this issue, I would recommend to start up cooperation around that meeting. I would prefer to have an internal discussion first how to go on with barley and beer, but it looks like Arche Noah already fixed the date, so in case please get in contact with each other. cheers Christoph _______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:Npos_2018@testbiotech.de> https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018 _______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:Npos_2018@testbiotech.de> https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018

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!! How to access the hearing on the fish patent /DEADLINE
by Christoph Then 11 Nov '21

11 Nov '21

!! you have to ask for participation three working days before. */How can members of the public attend oral proceedings held by VICO?/* /For the moment members of the public can observe oral proceedings by requesting connection details from the EPO and registering to participate in the VICO./ / / /Requests should be submitted via email to the EPO at support(a)epo.org at least three working days prior to the date indicated in the summons to the oral proceedings. The requirements for such requests and the conditions for remote attendance of oral proceedings by VICO are published on the EPO website (see https://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/proceedings/public-access.htm <https://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/proceedings/public-access.htm>l)./ / / /Members of the public attending oral proceedings by VICO should identify themselves as such by entering a username starting with PUBLIC when launching the VICO platform and before entering the conference./ /---/ Wie können Mitglieder der Öffentlichkeit an einer als Videokonferenz durchgeführten mündlichen Verhandlung teilnehmen? Derzeit können Mitglieder der Öffentlichkeit die mündliche Verhandlung verfolgen, indem sie beim EPA die Verbindungsdaten beantragen und sich zur Teilnahme an der Videokonferenz anmelden. Entsprechende Anträge sind spätestens drei Arbeitstage vor dem in der Ladung zur mündlichen Verhandlung angegebenen Termin per E-Mail unter support(a)epo.org <mailto:support@epo.org> beim EPA einzureichen. Die Voraussetzungen für solche Anträge und die Bedingungen für die Fernteilnahme an mündlichen Verhandlungen per Videokonferenz werden auf der EPA-Website veröffentlicht (siehe https://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/proceedings/public-access_de.h… <https://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/proceedings/public-access_de.h…>). Mitglieder der Öffentlichkeit, die an mündlichen Verhandlungen per Videokonferenz teilnehmen, sollten sich als solche zu erkennen geben, indem sie nach dem Start der Videokonferenzplattform und vor Beitritt zur Videokonferenz einen mit PUBLIC beginnenden Benutzernamen eingeben. / /

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Planning & Budget 2022
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 10 Nov '21

10 Nov '21

Dear all, I just sent the draft planning & budget for 2022 as prepared by Christoph via Proton. We can briefly comment on it at our next call (17 Nov). Of some of you I still don't have a proton-email address. So confidential documents are still not only exchanged via Proton, but via other email addresses. You can create your proton email-address here: https://protonmail.com/ It just takes 5 minutes! :-) Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Factsheet Beer patents (German)
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 10 Nov '21

10 Nov '21

Dear all, together with ARCHE NOAH we made a Factsheet in German for the beer patents in order to facilitate communication with journalists, politicians, breweries, etc. Maybe it is useful for you, too. Feel free to make proposals for improvements. Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Fwd: Fwd: update on barley and beer patents
by Christoph Then 10 Nov '21

10 Nov '21

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] Fwd: update on barley and beer patents Datum: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:28:33 +0100 Von: Giulio Carini <giulio(a)wemove.eu> An: Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>, 'Christoph Then' <info(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>, npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de Thanks! Yes we will publish the interviews very soon. Here is the edited video with just the protest and we cut out the pub scene. We added just a quick voice over with text that Christoph and Johanna approved to give context on Carlsberg with the phrase: The Danish beer company Carlsberg filed a dozen applications to patent certain types of barley that are used to make beer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7mA3bIJGbw We will add subtitles shortly. Thanks again, On 10/11/2021 16:42, Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org wrote: > > ... and to add that Giulio said that they have much more good video > content with the interviews of the activists (our member > organisations) that they will publish on youtube in the future! > > Thanks Giulio! Would be great to have those videos! > > > > *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* > > Project Coordination > > Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 > > johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org > <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> > > > > *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* > > www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> > > www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds > <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> > > www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> > > > > logo_NPOS_RGB_WEB_laenglich_580x122px (JPEG) 10 > > > > *From:*Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] *On Behalf > Of *Christoph Then > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 10, 2021 3:24 PM > *To:* npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de; Giulio Carini <giulio(a)wemove.eu> > *Subject:* Re: [Npos_2018] Fwd: update on barley and beer patents > > > > Dear all > > > > we had some concerns that the first part of the video (in the Pub) > raises problems because of factual errors. But it looks like this > first part will deleted and therefore I would have no further > concerns. The spokespersons of the EPO seemed to aware that they got > recorded. We will not mention their names, not to trigger any personal > shit storm. So I think they can stay in the video. > > > > thanks to Giulio for his flexibility and great cooperation. > > > > cheers > > > > Christoph > > > > Am 10.11.21 um 13:04 schrieb Christoph Then: > > let us have a look on the video ... > > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > *Betreff: * > > > > Re: AW: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents > > *Datum: * > > > > Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:28:24 +0100 > > *Von: * > > > > Giulio Carini <giulio(a)wemove.eu> <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> > > *An: * > > > > ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler <magdalena.prieler(a)arche-noah.at> > <mailto:magdalena.prieler@arche-noah.at>, Christoph Then > <info(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org> > <mailto:info@no-patents-on-seeds.org>, npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de > <npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de> <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> > > > > Hi Christoph and Magdalena, > > Below is a preview of the video. We still need to add subtitles. > We will publish it very soon once we add subtitles and will send > to our members to share on Carlsberg's social media pages. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6x23acPrA > > We are of course not professional actors but we tried our best to > explain issue so as many people as possible can absorb it easily. > I understand as well that it's much more complicated of an issue > and that we lose a bit with this level of simplicity:) > > Thanks again > > On 10/11/2021 11:43, Giulio Carini wrote: > > Hi Magdalena! > > I will send the video asap as soon as we finish final edits. > It should hopefully be before lunch time:) We wanted to try to > tell a story and make the issue simple for people to > understand. Speak in a bit, Giulio > > On 10/11/2021 11:28, ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler wrote: > > Dear Christoph, dear Giulio, dear all, > > thanks for the news! It would be great to see the video, > indeed. We can refer to it in our newsletter coming out > next week but would need to have it until today in the > early afternoon to be able to include it still. Is that > possible? In any case we are already very curious to see > it! :) > > Regarding the meeting with Austrian and German breweries > we followed the NPOS suggestion to combine those two in a > meeting as we see it as a good fit. Together with Johanna > we plan to talk with them about how they can best support > our common campaign. If anyone still has ideas on that or > wants to join the meeting you are more than welcome to do > so. We suggested the 15th at 11.30, but the date is not > set yet. > > Best, > Magdalena > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de > <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>] Im Auftrag von > Christoph Then > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2021 09:07 > An: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de; Giulio Carini > <giulio(a)wemove.eu> <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> > Betreff: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents > > Dear all, > > > I did not get any response from Carlsberg and Heineken so > far. So I guess, WeMove can start its videos. I would be > happy to have some preview to prepare for reactions, in > case needed. It also would be gerat to see the text before > which will be sent to the supporters. > > Arche Noah asked for a meeting with the breweries for > Monday next ẃeek. > They also asked the German brewers to take part. Also > Johanna wants to participate in the meeting. > > Since several organisations are quite active on this > issue, I would recommend to start up cooperation around > that meeting. I would prefer to have an internal > discussion first how to go on with barley and beer, but it > looks like Arche Noah already fixed the date, so in case > please get in contact with each other. > > cheers > > > Christoph > > _______________________________________________ > Npos_2018 mailing list > Npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de > https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Npos_2018 mailing list > > Npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de > > https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018 > > >

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Fwd: update on barley and beer patents
by Christoph Then 10 Nov '21

10 Nov '21

let us have a look on the video ... -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: AW: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents Datum: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:28:24 +0100 Von: Giulio Carini <giulio(a)wemove.eu> An: ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler <magdalena.prieler(a)arche-noah.at>, Christoph Then <info(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org>, npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de> Hi Christoph and Magdalena, Below is a preview of the video. We still need to add subtitles. We will publish it very soon once we add subtitles and will send to our members to share on Carlsberg's social media pages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt6x23acPrA We are of course not professional actors but we tried our best to explain issue so as many people as possible can absorb it easily. I understand as well that it's much more complicated of an issue and that we lose a bit with this level of simplicity:) Thanks again On 10/11/2021 11:43, Giulio Carini wrote: > Hi Magdalena! > > I will send the video asap as soon as we finish final edits. It should > hopefully be before lunch time:) We wanted to try to tell a story and > make the issue simple for people to understand. Speak in a bit, Giulio > > On 10/11/2021 11:28, ARCHE NOAH Magdalena Prieler wrote: >> Dear Christoph, dear Giulio, dear all, >> >> thanks for the news! It would be great to see the video, indeed. We >> can refer to it in our newsletter coming out next week but would need >> to have it until today in the early afternoon to be able to include >> it still. Is that possible? In any case we are already very curious >> to see it! :) >> >> Regarding the meeting with Austrian and German breweries we followed >> the NPOS suggestion to combine those two in a meeting as we see it as >> a good fit. Together with Johanna we plan to talk with them about how >> they can best support our common campaign. If anyone still has ideas >> on that or wants to join the meeting you are more than welcome to do >> so. We suggested the 15th at 11.30, but the date is not set yet. >> >> Best, >> Magdalena >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag >> von Christoph Then >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. November 2021 09:07 >> An: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de; Giulio Carini <giulio(a)wemove.eu> >> Betreff: [Npos_2018] update on barley and beer patents >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> I did not get any response from Carlsberg and Heineken so far. So I >> guess, WeMove can start its videos. I would be happy to have some >> preview to prepare for reactions, in case needed. It also would be >> gerat to see the text before which will be sent to the supporters. >> >> Arche Noah asked for a meeting with the breweries for Monday next ẃeek. >> They also asked the German brewers to take part. Also Johanna wants >> to participate in the meeting. >> >> Since several organisations are quite active on this issue, I would >> recommend to start up cooperation around that meeting. I would prefer >> to have an internal discussion first how to go on with barley and >> beer, but it looks like Arche Noah already fixed the date, so in case >> please get in contact with each other. >> >> cheers >> >> >> Christoph >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Npos_2018 mailing list >> Npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de >> https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018

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