November 2021 - Npos_2018 - lists.testbiotech.de

draft media release on the petition (German and English)
by Christoph Then 19 Nov '21

19 Nov '21

please see my first draft, more or less same content as the petition.

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new version of the petition
by Christoph Then 19 Nov '21

19 Nov '21

after last comments from Francois, marked. for further explanations see my last mail. english version still needs editing.

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neue Version der Petition (English still missing)
by Christoph Then 19 Nov '21

19 Nov '21

There were several comments from Dagmar and Francois. I tried to integrate. Further, I was a little cautious on animals. I deleted the examples which might have caused debates about revoked or lapsed patents, I kept it more general. I took over the idea from Dagmar to summarize the first part for the petition. I think we should have an explanatory text (first part) and a shorter text which is the real petition. There was the idea to demand to restrict the patents to regulated genetic engineering. I would avoid this, because these legal frameworks are separated and I think it is important to explain this (again) to those which want to have random mutations to be regulated as genetic engineering. There is not much in common between GMO regulation and patent law. on the text for the visual. How about: Internationale Konferenz um Patente auf Saatgut stoppen! International Conference to stop patents on seeds! I continue to work on english verion and draft PR.

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petition German and English
by Christoph Then 18 Nov '21

18 Nov '21

By working on the English version I got aware of some changes that had to made in the German version. see both attached now, changes marked. English version still needs editing more explanations please see my last e-mail.

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AbL joins petition
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 18 Nov '21

18 Nov '21

Dear all, FYI: AbL will join our petition as well already on 25 Nov. They will have the info on their website and include a link to the NPOS petition. They might check if they can have their own online form to sign on the website, but this may not be necessary. Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Visual for petition
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 18 Nov '21

18 Nov '21

Dear all, attached a first draft by ARCHE NOAH for the visual of the petition. The vegetable pictures will become a bit smaller. We still have to agree on which text we want to use in the visual for NPOS (EN/DE). Please come back to me if you have any feedback. Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Doodle Conference call December
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 18 Nov '21

18 Nov '21

Dear all, here is the doodle for our conference call in December: https://doodle.com/poll/n8egv53icmka4iww?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/n8egv53icmka4iww?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Please fill it out until next Tuesday, 23 Nov. evening. Thank you. Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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nearly perfect example to exemplify the problem with CRISPR patents (granted patent on tomatoes)
by Christoph Then 17 Nov '21

17 Nov '21

Dear all Andreas discovered this patent from Nunhems (BASF) on tomatoes. It is a perfect mix of spontaneous mutations, induced random mutations, methods for selecting mutations (Tilling), targeted mutagenesis and transgenic plants. All is mentioned in the description. In the claims, all (relevant) mutations are claimed, no matter where they stem from. No examples are given what was done by Nunhems in real, so it is unclear how the mutations were achieved (I guess it was induced at random mutagenesis). the only thing which is not ideal: The patent was applied before CRISPR was applied broadly. Therefore the example they use for targeted mutagenesis is oligodirected mutagenesis (ODM) (as reference EP 1963505 is given). In summary, this patent definitely can be used to fuel our campaign. cheers Christoph

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Conference call 17.Nov 21 - Minutes
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 17 Nov '21

17 Nov '21

Dear all, please find attached the minutes of today's conference call. Please come back to us if you have any questions. Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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Update in German tomorrow
by Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org 17 Nov '21

17 Nov '21

[Update in German] Liebe Runde, morgen, DO, 18.11. gibt es von 8:30h – 9:30h ein kurzes Update über die heutige Telefonkonferenz. Zoom-Info weiter unten. Wer nicht dabei sein kann, den informiere ich gerne extra. Das nächste Mal schaffen wir hoffentlich wieder einen Termin, der für den Großteil passt. Protokoll von heute kommt noch. Liebe Grüße, Johanna --- Zoom-Meeting beitreten https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83408749737?pwd=R2h1Y1VhMDhxK1dFbmRYWXlnWDBFQT09 Meeting-ID: 834 0874 9737 Kenncode: 806589 Einwahl nach aktuellem Standort +43 670 309 0165 Österreich +49 69 5050 0951 Deutschland Ortseinwahl suchen: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/keoT3Afhee Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org [mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 10:58 AM To: 'Georg Janssen' <janssen(a)abl-ev.de>; 'Annemarie Volling' <gentechnikfreie-regionen(a)abl-ev.de> Subject: RE: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Super, sehr schön! Weiter unten die Zoom-Info! Liebe Grüße, Johanna --- Zoom-Meeting beitreten <https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83408749737?pwd=R2h1Y1VhMDhxK1dFbmRYWXlnWDBFQT09> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83408749737?pwd=R2h1Y1VhMDhxK1dFbmRYWXlnWDBFQT09 Meeting-ID: 834 0874 9737 Kenncode: 806589 Einwahl nach aktuellem Standort +43 670 309 0165 Österreich +49 69 5050 0951 Deutschland Ortseinwahl suchen: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/keoT3Afhee Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Georg Janssen [mailto:janssen@abl-ev.de] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 9:05 AM To: Annemarie Volling <gentechnikfreie-regionen(a)abl-ev.de <mailto:gentechnikfreie-regionen@abl-ev.de> >; 'Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org' <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> > Subject: Re: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Ja geht, Georg Am 15.11.2021 um 08:41 schrieb Annemarie Volling: Liebe beide, ich kann am 18.11. nur bis 9:30, für mich passt am besten 8:30 bis 9:30 Uhr. Ginge das bei euch auch? LG Annemarie Von: Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. November 2021 11:22 An: 'Georg Janssen' <mailto:janssen@abl-ev.de> <janssen(a)abl-ev.de>; 'Annemarie Volling' <mailto:gentechnikfreie-regionen@abl-ev.de> <gentechnikfreie-regionen(a)abl-ev.de> Betreff: RE: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Liebe beide, wollen wir dann DO, 18.11. 9h machen? Liebe Grüße, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Georg Janssen [mailto:janssen@abl-ev.de] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 9:00 AM To: Annemarie Volling <gentechnikfreie-regionen(a)abl-ev.de <mailto:gentechnikfreie-regionen@abl-ev.de> >; 'Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org' <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> > Subject: Re: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Liebe Johanna, Liebe Annemarie, ich habe da einen sehr wichtigen Arzttermin in Hamburg und falle den 17.11. aus. Am 18.11. vormittags oder nachmittags ab 15:00 Uhr geht bei mir. Liebe Grüße und Kraft zum Kämpfen. Georg Am 12.11.2021 um 08:56 schrieb Annemarie Volling: Liebe Johanna, eine gute Idee. Bei mir geht der 17. Leider ganz nicht (ganzen Tag Veranstaltung). Ginge bei dir auch am 18./19.? LG Annemarie Von: Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. November 2021 16:27 An: 'Annemarie Volling' <mailto:gentechnikfreie-regionen@abl-ev.de> <gentechnikfreie-regionen(a)abl-ev.de>; janssen(a)abl-ev.de <mailto:janssen@abl-ev.de> Betreff: RE: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Liebe Annemarie, lieber Georg, es ist grad schwierig Termine zu finden, die für alle passen. Ich glaube das einfachste wäre, wenn wir einfach mal telefonieren oder zoomen! Wie wäre es, wenn wir das nach der englischen TK (Mi,17.11./10.30h-12.00h) machen, wenn ich dann wieder etwas mehr weiß? Ginge bei euch z.B. MI, 17.11. nachmittags? Da wäre ich noch sehr flexibel. Wäre für mich auf jeden Fall gar kein Problem! Liebe Grüße, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Annemarie Volling [mailto:gentechnikfreie-regionen@abl-ev.de] Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 11:52 AM To: 'Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org' <johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> > Cc: janssen(a)abl-ev.de <mailto:janssen@abl-ev.de> Subject: Frage an Dich: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Liebe Johanna, sorry dass wir uns gerade sowenig melden. Georg und ich sind gerade etwas draussen aus der aktuellen Debatte, zuviele englische mails, aber insbesondere auch zu viele andere Baustellen. Deshalb die Frage, wird es im Anschluss noch eine dt. TK geben oder sollen wir einfach mal telefonieren? Oder würdest Du das auf später verschieben? Voll okay in Anbetracht der vielen Termine. In jedem Fall Dir und euch vielen Dank für eure Unermüdlichkeit, das ist total wertvoll. Auf bald Annemarie Von: Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> > Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Gesendet: Montag, 8. November 2021 10:37 An: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> ; 'Giulio Carini' <giulio(a)wemove.eu <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> > Betreff: [Npos_2018] REMINDER: Doodle conference call Dear all, may I ask you to fill in the doodle for the conference call next week asap? We want to discuss next steps of the campaign and other general issues. https://doodle.com/poll/3bi7h38cwpx7a9gz?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/3bi7h38cwpx7a9gz?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed From: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] On Behalf Of Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 3:35 PM To: npos_2018(a)testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> ; 'Giulio Carini' <giulio(a)wemove.eu <mailto:giulio@wemove.eu> > Subject: [Npos_2018] Update next steps / Doodle conference call Dear all, following our call on the next steps of the campaign, please find an update below. Please come back to us if you have any comments or questions. Thursday, 4 Nov.: - Send out Carlsberg press release 1. Write Carlsberg. Ask them why they revoked the patent, if they are going to revoke all their beer patents, if they are going to refrain filing for patents on essentially biological breeding in the future. Ask them to come back to us until Tuesday, 9 Nov. Wednesday, 10 Nov.: - WeMove will most probably publish their videos on the Carlsberg patents Thursday, 25 Nov.: - Start of the petition by NPOS and ARCHE NOAH, press release Wednesday, 29 June - Meeting of Administrative Council / end of petition Umweltinstitut & Gen-ethisches Netzwerk will join the petition at the beginning of next year / in spring. WeMove may run the petition 1-2 weeks before the end, maybe push the petition as well this year, depending on the developments with Carlsberg. BUND will join, too. If you have a good idea for a visual that we could use for the petition, please let me know! :-) We’d like to have another general conference call before the start of the petition, focusing on the campaign work, but as well discussing other issues. Please fill out the doodle until the end of the week (Sunday evening): https://doodle.com/poll/3bi7h38cwpx7a9gz?utm_source=poll <https://doodle.com/poll/3bi7h38cwpx7a9gz?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link> &utm_medium=link Best, Johanna Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> johanna.eckhardt(a)no-patents-on-seeds.org NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed

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