Dear Christoph, dear Giulio, dear All
* Regarding the Adressee: I think all agree that the petition is directed to the governments of the contracting sates of the European Patent Office. Depending on the layout there will be a need to mention this also on the petition itself (the second page in your draft). * Collection of signatures: Will NPOS also collect signatures at its Website ? or will requests always be directed to the WeMove Website ? * Counting : yes would be good to know how many signatures we have per country. I expect that it will be possible for WeMove to communicate us these figures. But these means if we handover (own collected) signatures to our government, we will give them the petition (including name, town of the ones who have signed the petition) and then add « in addition there were xy signatories from Switzerland which have signed the petition at the WeMove Website » (Its a little bit strange, no ? but maybe the only way to count together all signatories ?) * And we discussed in Switzerland, that for example the support of Farmer Organisations would have politically more impact than 1000 individual signatories more. -> Is somebody also collecting the support/signatures from organisations for the petition ??
Best
François
Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2021 08:08 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de; Giulio Carini giulio@wemove.eu Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] Questions related to the petition
Dear all,
thanks for these questions, I will try to answer some of them and I guess there will be further comments. There also might be some conclusion in the minutes of our zoom meetings. I guess Johanna will know.
My understanding is that the petition is directed to the national governments and in most cases will target the responsible ministers. However, the minister might not always be the best choice. Thus, we also can address the governments in more general. For example in Germany, I think we should wait on the new government to be in power before we take final decision whom to address.
we should know how many signatures were collected for each country, in some cases this might be helpful. This does not mean we already took a decision how we will communicate these figures.
As soon as we start to handover (maybe Austria will be the first) we will discuss how to communicate. We also can organise handover at the Admin Councils for a overall final activity (since these burocrates have to represent their countries).
So for the moment, it seems to be possible for each organisation to take a choice how address its government. Within one country, the signatures can be collected jointly or individually (by each organisation), but all organisations from one country should take a joint decision whom to address and how. For me, Switzerland is showing us already the way how we can organise.
hope this helps to go on with the decision making.
Cheers
Christoph
Am 18.11.21 um 19:09 schrieb francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch mailto:francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch :
Dear All
We just discussed the petition among the swiss members of NPOS.
And we have following questions (maybe they have already been answered, but we are not aware of)
1. Who is exactly the addressee of the Petition? Is it (all) the Ministers of the Parties? Or does each country collect signatures for the petition for their national Minister? (I would prefer the first). Maybe this needs also to be clarified in the petition? 2. It seems that some organisations collect the signatures individually. So it will be possible to sign at Arche Noah, We Move, No patents on Seeds, ABL and maybe an NPOS member in Switzerland?? (So it will be possible to sign five times but this is maybe not a problem.) And at the end, we collect the number of signatures everybody has collected? What will be collected: Just the number? Or also the address or email of the supporter? Will there be only national handovers? or also a more centralised one ? And what will exactly be handed over, when we handover the petition. -> We think all this needs to be fixed now as it has an influence in which way we collect the signatures.
Thanks a lot for some clarification in this regard.
François for the swiss members.
Von: Npos_2018 mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt no-patents-seeds.org Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. November 2021 16:39 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] AbL joins petition
Dear all,
FYI: AbL will join our petition as well already on 25 Nov. They will have the info on their website and include a link to the NPOS petition.
They might check if they can have their own online form to sign on the website, but this may not be necessary.
Best,
Johanna
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