! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Please find attached some comments on the pressrelease. I will be on holiday next week - and not able to disseminate the pressrelease.
Best François
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:11 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
_______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Lieber Francois
hier ein paar Kommentare zu Deinen Anmerkungen. Wichtig: ich habe versucht in diesem Text eine neue Perspektive zu geben, damit er politisch eine stärkere Wirkung hat. Ich denke, wir hatten vereinbart, dass wir versuchen etwas politischer und weniger patentrechtlich zu formulieren. Inhaltlich scheint es mir so korrekt - als Beleg dient der Hintergrund und unser letzter Bericht.
herzlichen Gruß
Christoph
Am 06.10.21 um 17:00 schrieb francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch:
Please find attached some comments on the pressrelease. I will be on holiday next week - and not able to disseminate the pressrelease.
Best François
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:11 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Liebe alle
Ich klinke mich etwas spät und wohl jetzt etwas unverhofft ein, sorry.
Aber ich habe mir kurz die PM angeschaut, und mir sind zwei Sachen aufgefallen, die mir wirklich wichtig scheinen, siehe auch im Anhang:
1. scheint mir der erste Abschnitt schlicht nicht verständlich, 2. Fände ich es sehr wichtig, dass viel direkter (und früher im Text) gesagt wird, weshalb eigentlich CRISPR/Cas ein spezielles Problem ist. Das kommt jetzt erst weit unten auch da ist es für (Halb-)Aussenstehend nicht so recht nachvollziehbar. Für Euch ist das natürlich 'Basic', aber ich denke wirklich nicht dass es so nach aussen auch klar rüberkommt.
Herzliche Grüsse
Carla
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:43 An: francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Lieber Francois
hier ein paar Kommentare zu Deinen Anmerkungen. Wichtig: ich habe versucht in diesem Text eine neue Perspektive zu geben, damit er politisch eine stärkere Wirkung hat. Ich denke, wir hatten vereinbart, dass wir versuchen etwas politischer und weniger patentrechtlich zu formulieren. Inhaltlich scheint es mir so korrekt - als Beleg dient der Hintergrund und unser letzter Bericht.
herzlichen Gruß
Christoph
Am 06.10.21 um 17:00 schrieb francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch:
Please find attached some comments on the pressrelease. I will be on holiday next week - and not able to disseminate the pressrelease.
Best François
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:11 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Hi all ,
thanks a lot!
Attached a version with Axel and my comments combined in the DE version of the press release, I hope I have also incorporated most comments from before (but unsure if I still have the overview to be honest).
We found it a bit difficult to understand from an non-expert point of view, and since there is a background document, deleted some technical details, while of course trying to remain correct.
Happy to discuss more!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Carla Hoinkes Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 10:34 An: Christoph Then info@no-patents-on-seeds.org; francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Liebe alle
Ich klinke mich etwas spät und wohl jetzt etwas unverhofft ein, sorry.
Aber ich habe mir kurz die PM angeschaut, und mir sind zwei Sachen aufgefallen, die mir wirklich wichtig scheinen, siehe auch im Anhang:
1. scheint mir der erste Abschnitt schlicht nicht verständlich, 2. Fände ich es sehr wichtig, dass viel direkter (und früher im Text) gesagt wird, weshalb eigentlich CRISPR/Cas ein spezielles Problem ist. Das kommt jetzt erst weit unten auch da ist es für (Halb-)Aussenstehend nicht so recht nachvollziehbar. Für Euch ist das natürlich 'Basic', aber ich denke wirklich nicht dass es so nach aussen auch klar rüberkommt.
Herzliche Grüsse
Carla
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:43 An: francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Lieber Francois
hier ein paar Kommentare zu Deinen Anmerkungen. Wichtig: ich habe versucht in diesem Text eine neue Perspektive zu geben, damit er politisch eine stärkere Wirkung hat. Ich denke, wir hatten vereinbart, dass wir versuchen etwas politischer und weniger patentrechtlich zu formulieren. Inhaltlich scheint es mir so korrekt - als Beleg dient der Hintergrund und unser letzter Bericht.
herzlichen Gruß
Christoph
Am 06.10.21 um 17:00 schrieb francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch:
Please find attached some comments on the pressrelease. I will be on holiday next week - and not able to disseminate the pressrelease.
Best François
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:11 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
Sorry, I forgot: I am also happy to take a quote if there is one left, but not sure if it doesn't make more sense to give it to people how are present in Munich. We will have an Austrian press release also (with minor changes).
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dagmar Urban Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 21:31 An: Carla Hoinkes carla.hoinkes@publiceye.ch; Christoph Then info@no-patents-on-seeds.org; francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Cc: Axel Grunt axel.grunt@talkyourwalk.at Betreff: AW: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Hi all ,
thanks a lot!
Attached a version with Axel and my comments combined in the DE version of the press release, I hope I have also incorporated most comments from before (but unsure if I still have the overview to be honest).
We found it a bit difficult to understand from an non-expert point of view, and since there is a background document, deleted some technical details, while of course trying to remain correct.
Happy to discuss more!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Carla Hoinkes Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021 10:34 An: Christoph Then info@no-patents-on-seeds.org; francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Liebe alle
Ich klinke mich etwas spät und wohl jetzt etwas unverhofft ein, sorry.
Aber ich habe mir kurz die PM angeschaut, und mir sind zwei Sachen aufgefallen, die mir wirklich wichtig scheinen, siehe auch im Anhang:
1. scheint mir der erste Abschnitt schlicht nicht verständlich, 2. Fände ich es sehr wichtig, dass viel direkter (und früher im Text) gesagt wird, weshalb eigentlich CRISPR/Cas ein spezielles Problem ist. Das kommt jetzt erst weit unten auch da ist es für (Halb-)Aussenstehend nicht so recht nachvollziehbar. Für Euch ist das natürlich 'Basic', aber ich denke wirklich nicht dass es so nach aussen auch klar rüberkommt.
Herzliche Grüsse
Carla
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 17:43 An: francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch; npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
Lieber Francois
hier ein paar Kommentare zu Deinen Anmerkungen. Wichtig: ich habe versucht in diesem Text eine neue Perspektive zu geben, damit er politisch eine stärkere Wirkung hat. Ich denke, wir hatten vereinbart, dass wir versuchen etwas politischer und weniger patentrechtlich zu formulieren. Inhaltlich scheint es mir so korrekt - als Beleg dient der Hintergrund und unser letzter Bericht.
herzlichen Gruß
Christoph
Am 06.10.21 um 17:00 schrieb francois.meienberg@prospecierara.ch:
Please find attached some comments on the pressrelease. I will be on holiday next week - and not able to disseminate the pressrelease.
Best François
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:11 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
it is easy to skip the demand. No problem.
Am 06.10.21 um 16:05 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Hi All,
thanks a lot Christoph!
I already forwarded it to Axel and had a quick call, we will send our feedback until tomorrow evening for the DE version.
I do strongly feel since we do not know when the petition will start, we should not make the demand for the conference in this press release already. It might lead to the fact that the Austrian ministry says "I support the demand for a conference" and then we do not need a petition anymore - which in fact we do need to create real pressure, so they actually do more. Also, then we do not have a "new story" for the start of the petition (beyond that tehre is a petition, which doesn't work for most media).
I'll make an alternative suggestion for a demand until tomorrow, and then we can see how to move forward.
But anyway, it's going to be a great story!
Best, Dagmar
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Npos_2018 [mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de] Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2021 16:00 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] ! PR in German (slightly corrected) and first draft in English
dear all
please see the drafts and send your feedback till end of the week. We also my decide to give more weight to the demand for a conference by have a sub-heading.
Johanna can you please circulate to We Move and Axel?
please also decide if you want to have a quote.
I am trying to translate the backgrounder as well, but ,might take me till end of the week. I guess if we agree on the content of the PR, the backgrouinder should not raise major discussions.
Cheers
Christoph
Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
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Christoph Then -
francois.meienberg＠prospecierara.ch