update on resolution in EP / question to Anne Charlotte
Dear all
I got first response from Juliette which is working for the Green Group. She thinks it may become difficult for the Greens to run a resolution which defines a difference between random mutagenesis and new genome editing. Good old discussions, triggered by via Campesina, I like a lot.
I do not know where this will end and maybe I will check with Social Democrats if they would table the resolution. We will see. This something for next step to be decided.
So first we will meet on Zoom with Juliette next Wednesday together with Johanna and, if available with Anne Charlotte (as expert for Via Campesina). I will present the arguments as presented in the power point at the German ministry of justice and then we will try to have relaxed discussion. Strictly about patent law.
I think, things have changed since we discussed the issue with Via Campesina last time. Organic breeders are concerned on the barley patent. We can show that the issue of random mutations are crucial for scope of patents on new genome editing: If the scope of patent is not limited to genetic engineering, the big seed companies will be able to patent conventional bred varieties all over. And, anyway, the Greens should not ignore the findings of a large international coalition of CSOs.
For the moment I am happy the Greens want to discuss this issue and on the midterm I think this discussion is also useful when it comes to New GE and GMO regulation.
So let us try.
Cheers
Christoph
Dear all,
it is a good news to get this opportunity to talk with the Green party.
But I am far to be an expert of Via campesina. I don't have any legitimity to talk in their name.
If you want to have their opinion, I think it would be better to invite someone from Via campesina. There will be certainly a peaceful person to explain their position.
It could be also someone from the organisation Inf'ogm who has a precise view on the subject and they are also peaceful.
Honnestly I don't feel confortable at all with this question of random mutagenesis. I got already lots of critics from the french side.
Actualy, It is maybe better, first, to be in a one/one discussion with Juliette?
cheers,
AC
Am 16.09.2021 um 18:04 schrieb Christoph Then:
Dear all
I got first response from Juliette which is working for the Green Group. She thinks it may become difficult for the Greens to run a resolution which defines a difference between random mutagenesis and new genome editing. Good old discussions, triggered by via Campesina, I like a lot.
I do not know where this will end and maybe I will check with Social Democrats if they would table the resolution. We will see. This something for next step to be decided.
So first we will meet on Zoom with Juliette next Wednesday together with Johanna and, if available with Anne Charlotte (as expert for Via Campesina). I will present the arguments as presented in the power point at the German ministry of justice and then we will try to have relaxed discussion. Strictly about patent law.
I think, things have changed since we discussed the issue with Via Campesina last time. Organic breeders are concerned on the barley patent. We can show that the issue of random mutations are crucial for scope of patents on new genome editing: If the scope of patent is not limited to genetic engineering, the big seed companies will be able to patent conventional bred varieties all over. And, anyway, the Greens should not ignore the findings of a large international coalition of CSOs.
For the moment I am happy the Greens want to discuss this issue and on the midterm I think this discussion is also useful when it comes to New GE and GMO regulation.
So let us try.
Cheers
Christoph
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Thanks Anne-Charlotte,
No problem. I think Via Campesina is mostly arguing on New GE and mutagenesis which they want to have both under GMO regulation.
But patent law is is not interfering with GMO regulation, it is completely separated.
More specifically: The definition of G2/07 is not derived from GMO law but simply defines technical characteristics (direct insertion of a trait). No matter if New GE is regulated as GMOs or not, this definition can be applied to CRISPR & Co but not to random mutations.
So I strictly will argue on patent law and will try to explain the reasoning behind G2/07. I will try to meet Juliette together with Johanna.
so let us see.
Christoph
Am 19.09.21 um 11:47 schrieb Anne-Charlotte Moy:
Dear all,
it is a good news to get this opportunity to talk with the Green party.
But I am far to be an expert of Via campesina. I don't have any legitimity to talk in their name.
If you want to have their opinion, I think it would be better to invite someone from Via campesina. There will be certainly a peaceful person to explain their position.
It could be also someone from the organisation Inf'ogm who has a precise view on the subject and they are also peaceful.
Honnestly I don't feel confortable at all with this question of random mutagenesis. I got already lots of critics from the french side.
Actualy, It is maybe better, first, to be in a one/one discussion with Juliette?
cheers,
AC
Am 16.09.2021 um 18:04 schrieb Christoph Then:
Dear all
I got first response from Juliette which is working for the Green Group. She thinks it may become difficult for the Greens to run a resolution which defines a difference between random mutagenesis and new genome editing. Good old discussions, triggered by via Campesina, I like a lot.
I do not know where this will end and maybe I will check with Social Democrats if they would table the resolution. We will see. This something for next step to be decided.
So first we will meet on Zoom with Juliette next Wednesday together with Johanna and, if available with Anne Charlotte (as expert for Via Campesina). I will present the arguments as presented in the power point at the German ministry of justice and then we will try to have relaxed discussion. Strictly about patent law.
I think, things have changed since we discussed the issue with Via Campesina last time. Organic breeders are concerned on the barley patent. We can show that the issue of random mutations are crucial for scope of patents on new genome editing: If the scope of patent is not limited to genetic engineering, the big seed companies will be able to patent conventional bred varieties all over. And, anyway, the Greens should not ignore the findings of a large international coalition of CSOs.
For the moment I am happy the Greens want to discuss this issue and on the midterm I think this discussion is also useful when it comes to New GE and GMO regulation.
So let us try.
Cheers
Christoph
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Christoph Then