REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50th anniversary until tomorrow.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT
Project Coordination
Tel. +43 680 21 26 343
mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
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Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September.
The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We'll need around 20 people.
Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents.
* Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? * Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? * Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). * If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something.
Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel).
Looking forward to hear what you think.
Kind regards,
Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT
Project Coordination
Tel. +43 680 21 26 343
johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!
http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.no-patents-on-seeds.org
http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds
http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
Dear all,
I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake).
Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it)
best axel
Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.orghttp://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseedshttp://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseedhttp://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Von: Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September.
The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We'll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents.
* Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? * Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? * Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). * If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something.
Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel).
Looking forward to hear what you think.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.orghttp://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseedshttp://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseedhttp://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.at:
Dear all,
I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'.
can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake).
Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it)
best
axel
*Von:*Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de *Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50^th anniversary until tomorrow.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Johanna
*Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT*
Project Coordination
Tel. +43 680 21 26 343
johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
*NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!*
www.no-patents-on-seeds.org http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/
www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds
www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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*Von:*Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de *Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5^th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September.
The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people.
Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents.
- Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not?
- Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture?
- Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy).
- If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something.
Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel).
Looking forward to hear what you think.
Kind regards,
Johanna
*Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT*
Project Coordination
Tel. +43 680 21 26 343
johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
*NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!*
www.no-patents-on-seeds.org http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/
www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds
www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2023 15:13 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.atmailto:axel.grunt@arche-noah.at: Dear all,
I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake).
Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it)
best axel
Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.orghttp://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseedshttp://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseedhttp://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Von: Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September.
The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents.
1. Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? 2. Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? 3. Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). 4. If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something.
Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel).
Looking forward to hear what you think.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.orghttp://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseedshttp://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseedhttp://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Dear Christoph, dear all,
First of all, sorry for the empty email I just sent, I have no idea why that happened.
We very much agree it is a big opportunity for communications work.
We are still convinced, that the picture proposed by Christoph will not work well for (our) media and have trouble finding the message in it - but we do not have a “veto” or a problem with it, we simply think it is far from ideal for the purpose intended. But this is something that can also be proven wrong ;)
From our perspective, we do not need to agree to all activities, if there are no clear objections – it’s sad if our decision making process means that if there is no agreement, there is no action at all. Less than ideal actions are still better than no actions most of the time.
We also have identified this as a big opportunity, that we really do not want to miss it in Austria for broader Social Media and press work.
So from our side, we can offer:
- If the activity in Munich is going forward, Julia from our team can still come from Salzburg and join/support. We would not need to provide more feedback to the design and not make things more complicated. Just let us know if you need support.
- Regardless of the activity in Munich, we plan to use some ARCHE NOAH budget to make a picture with a cake in Vienna, as proposed by Axel. We would only use it in Austria, but are happy to provide to NPOS, in case anyone else wants to use it, e.g. only for Social Media, in addition to any NPOS pictures that might be proposed. It would also be possible to send several different pictures to media and let them choose.
Best, Dagmar
Von: Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> Im Auftrag von Christoph Then Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2023 15:13 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: Re: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.atmailto:axel.grunt@arche-noah.at: Dear all,
I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake).
Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it)
best axel
Von: Npos_2018 npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
NO PATENTS ON SEEDS! www.no-patents-on-seeds.orghttp://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/ www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseedshttp://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseedhttp://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed
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Von: Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> Im Auftrag von Johanna Eckhardt Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 An: npos_2018@testbiotech.demailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de Betreff: [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all,
to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September.
The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents.
1. Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? 2. Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? 3. Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). 4. If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something.
Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel).
Looking forward to hear what you think.
Kind regards, Johanna
Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.orgmailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org
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Thanks Dagmar, fair input.
however, I am a little bit puzzled by the fact that just a few of us contributed to this discussion.
we would need around 20 persons to perform this activity, but so far we did not get any signals besides Arche Noah.
anyway, on the weekend I can try to produce a photo so we have some impression how it might look like if we would use the vegetables.
Am 15.09.23 um 13:03 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Dear Christoph, dear all,
First of all, sorry for the empty email I just sent, I have no idea why that happened.
We very much agree it is a big opportunity for communications work.
We are still convinced, that the picture proposed by Christoph will not work well for (our) media and have trouble finding the message in it - but we do not have a “veto” or a problem with it, we simply think it is far from ideal for the purpose intended. But this is something that can also be proven wrong ;)
From our perspective, we do not need to agree to all activities, if there are no clear objections – it’s sad if our decision making process means that if there is no agreement, there is no action at all. Less than ideal actions are still better than no actions most of the time.
We also have identified this as a big opportunity, that we really do not want to miss it in Austria for broader Social Media and press work.
So from our side, we can offer:
-If the activity in Munich is going forward, Julia from our team can still come from Salzburg and join/support. We would not need to provide more feedback to the design and not make things more complicated. Just let us know if you need support.
-Regardless of the activity in Munich, we plan to use some ARCHE NOAH budget to make a picture with a cake in Vienna, as proposed by Axel. We would only use it in Austria, but are happy to provide to NPOS, in case anyone else wants to use it, e.g. only for Social Media, in addition to any NPOS pictures that might be proposed. It would also be possible to send several different pictures to media and let them choose.
Best, Dagmar
*Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> *Im Auftrag von *Christoph Then *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. September 2023 15:13 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de *Betreff:* Re: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.at:
Dear all, I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake). Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it) best axel *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>*Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50^th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>> *Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5^th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September. The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents. 1. Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? 2. Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? 3. Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). 4. If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something. Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel). Looking forward to hear what you think. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org _______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
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Dear all,
it's not easy to mobilize members of BUND Naturschutz if there is no clear message what we'll want to say and what to do (they all are pretty busy with other activities). For this reason, I was kind of reluctant to take part in the actual discussion. If I'm in Munich (we may take a short leave around end of September/beginning of October), I'll be there. And if we agree on a bigger action, I'll do my best to mobilize a few BUND Naturschutz members.
Best,
Martha
Am 15.09.2023 um 13:29 schrieb Christoph Then:
Thanks Dagmar, fair input.
however, I am a little bit puzzled by the fact that just a few of us contributed to this discussion.
we would need around 20 persons to perform this activity, but so far we did not get any signals besides Arche Noah.
anyway, on the weekend I can try to produce a photo so we have some impression how it might look like if we would use the vegetables.
Am 15.09.23 um 13:03 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Dear Christoph, dear all,
First of all, sorry for the empty email I just sent, I have no idea why that happened.
We very much agree it is a big opportunity for communications work.
We are still convinced, that the picture proposed by Christoph will not work well for (our) media and have trouble finding the message in it - but we do not have a “veto” or a problem with it, we simply think it is far from ideal for the purpose intended. But this is something that can also be proven wrong ;)
From our perspective, we do not need to agree to all activities, if there are no clear objections – it’s sad if our decision making process means that if there is no agreement, there is no action at all. Less than ideal actions are still better than no actions most of the time.
We also have identified this as a big opportunity, that we really do not want to miss it in Austria for broader Social Media and press work.
So from our side, we can offer:
-If the activity in Munich is going forward, Julia from our team can still come from Salzburg and join/support. We would not need to provide more feedback to the design and not make things more complicated. Just let us know if you need support.
-Regardless of the activity in Munich, we plan to use some ARCHE NOAH budget to make a picture with a cake in Vienna, as proposed by Axel. We would only use it in Austria, but are happy to provide to NPOS, in case anyone else wants to use it, e.g. only for Social Media, in addition to any NPOS pictures that might be proposed. It would also be possible to send several different pictures to media and let them choose.
Best, Dagmar
*Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> *Im Auftrag von *Christoph Then *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. September 2023 15:13 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de *Betreff:* Re: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.at:
Dear all, I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake). Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it) best axel *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>*Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50^th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>> *Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5^th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September. The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents. 1. Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? 2. Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? 3. Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). 4. If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something. Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel). Looking forward to hear what you think. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org _______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
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If its just about 20 persons, I could mobilize some, maybe 5-10 persons.
Ruth
Am 15.09.2023 um 13:29 schrieb Christoph Then:
Thanks Dagmar, fair input.
however, I am a little bit puzzled by the fact that just a few of us contributed to this discussion.
we would need around 20 persons to perform this activity, but so far we did not get any signals besides Arche Noah.
anyway, on the weekend I can try to produce a photo so we have some impression how it might look like if we would use the vegetables.
Am 15.09.23 um 13:03 schrieb ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban:
Dear Christoph, dear all,
First of all, sorry for the empty email I just sent, I have no idea why that happened.
We very much agree it is a big opportunity for communications work.
We are still convinced, that the picture proposed by Christoph will not work well for (our) media and have trouble finding the message in it - but we do not have a “veto” or a problem with it, we simply think it is far from ideal for the purpose intended. But this is something that can also be proven wrong ;)
From our perspective, we do not need to agree to all activities, if there are no clear objections – it’s sad if our decision making process means that if there is no agreement, there is no action at all. Less than ideal actions are still better than no actions most of the time.
We also have identified this as a big opportunity, that we really do not want to miss it in Austria for broader Social Media and press work.
So from our side, we can offer:
-If the activity in Munich is going forward, Julia from our team can still come from Salzburg and join/support. We would not need to provide more feedback to the design and not make things more complicated. Just let us know if you need support.
-Regardless of the activity in Munich, we plan to use some ARCHE NOAH budget to make a picture with a cake in Vienna, as proposed by Axel. We would only use it in Austria, but are happy to provide to NPOS, in case anyone else wants to use it, e.g. only for Social Media, in addition to any NPOS pictures that might be proposed. It would also be possible to send several different pictures to media and let them choose.
Best, Dagmar
*Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> *Im Auftrag von *Christoph Then *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. September 2023 15:13 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de *Betreff:* Re: [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September
Dear all
it looks like Axel is the only one who is interested in the activity (thanks for the proposal!)
I would not agree with the suggested activity, because I can not imagine German media (or international media) to pick it up.
Since there is also no support for my scenario and no better proposal came up, I think we have to drop it.
This is might be regrettable, since we do not have many other opportunities to go public.
cheers,
Christoph
Am 13.09.23 um 11:43 schrieb axel.grunt@arche-noah.at:
Dear all, I would love to see a picture that focusses on '50y EPA' and something like 'failure'. can be really small, like a smashed birthday cake with black candles and a little banner right on top. Or we can put the message (something like 'European Patent Office - 50 years of failure' on the hammer that smashes the cake). Dont't judge too hard, this is only a very rough idea, but I like the taste of it) best axel *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de> <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>*Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 12. September 2023 16:41 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] REMINDER Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, this is a brief reminder to send us your thoughts about the activity for the EPO 50^th anniversary until tomorrow. Thank you. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org *Von:*Npos_2018 <npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018-bounces@testbiotech.de>> *Im Auftrag von *Johanna Eckhardt *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 6. September 2023 16:04 *An:* npos_2018@testbiotech.de <mailto:npos_2018@testbiotech.de> *Betreff:* [Npos_2018] Activity 50th anniversary EPO - Feedback needed until 13 September Dear all, to be able to take a decision about the planned activities on 5^th October in front of the EPO, we ask you for your feedback until Wednesday, 13 September. The idea proposed by Christoph: organise a protest / confrontational activity with our vegetables and pots and spoons. We’ll need around 20 people. Plus, Christoph will draft a backgrounder with new patents. 1. Do you agree with the idea of the vegetables and the pots or not? 2. Do you have a better concrete idea for a protest picture? 3. Would you be able to join in Munich? (joining so far: Gabi from Biorespect, Julia from ARCHE NOAH, Johanna, Tommy). 4. If we are not convinced about the activity, we could as well drop it altogether and just prepare a press release. But I think that we should take the opportunity to organise something. Until now we only have feedback from ARCHE NOAH who are not convinced about using the vegetables again (see emails from Axel). Looking forward to hear what you think. Kind regards, Johanna *Mag. Johanna ECKHARDT* Project Coordination Tel. +43 680 21 26 343 johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org <mailto:johanna.eckhardt@no-patents-on-seeds.org> *NO PATENTS ON SEEDS!* www.no-patents-on-seeds.org <http://www.no-patents-on-seeds.org/> www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds <http://www.facebook.com/nopatentsonseeds> www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed <http://www.twitter.com/nopatentsonseed> cid:part1.WPMYptcx.E0vv7mn0@umweltinstitut.org _______________________________________________ Npos_2018 mailing list Npos_2018@testbiotech.de https://lists.testbiotech.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/npos_2018
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participants (7)
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ARCHE NOAH Dagmar Urban -
axel.grunt＠arche-noah.at -
Christoph Then -
Christoph Then -
Johanna Eckhardt -
Martha Mertens -
Ruth Tippe