ENZA: we have it in the previous  report / 2018  - attached

Am 05.05.20 um 11:24 schrieb Anne-Charlotte Moy:


OK
that is true, wording are important.

There are in french 2 words : jardiniers ( gardners) who are private person, and "maraichers" are professionnal.

I am interesting on the text of licence from ENZA, can you please send me the text  if you have ?
cheers,

Le mar. 5 mai 2020 à 10:34, Christoph Then <info@no-patents-on-seeds.org> a écrit :
Dear all

I think we keep gardeners in the communication same as farmers and consumers. Similar to Erling, my understanding is, a gardener can also be a professionel (or is there any other word?).

If not affected directly, they will be affected indirectly. It is important to mention gardeners, since they are the one to grow vegetables which most patents are concerned with. Same / similar wording is in the report.

we also know from text of licence / material transfer from ENZA that gardeners are informed they only can sell tomatoes but not breed (thanks again for excellent tomato seeds to Anne-Charlotte. I will send photo as soon as I added technical toppings).

so yes, let us keep them in the text.

regarding editorials: always useful. But we also need some lines for more general and broader communciation.

our main audience, at this stage, are not the media, but professionals and politics. It looks like I will have a meeting with German Ministry of Justice in May - keep you updated.

cheers

Christoph




Am 04.05.20 um 23:55 schrieb Erling Frederiksen:
Dear Anna-C. , Christoph and you all
Interresting - in Danish a "gartner" is definitely a professionel and not a private person. So "gartnere" or "gartnerier" , in Denmark, will always be professionels. A private persen like me would never be described as a "gartner"  even though I have a big garden and many plants. I could be described as a "havemand" (gardenperson/man)  (have = garden).  Just to say, that we must be aware of how the Words are understood, when we translate and write in public. Thanks Anna-C.
These pressreleases do not have much effect in small Denmark, with very few qualified journalists and medias. I think we should think more about getting into writing small articles, in our own names, to the Newspapers and medias. "Letters to the editor" - "Opinion"  etc. - these would have better chance (in Denmark!) to be published than our pressreleases. The medias get too many pressreleases every day.
The "Ingeniøren" has written back, that they will write about the patentsprobelms - and they are nomally OK and trustworthly and jordbrug.dg / greenupdate.dk  has promised til publish an article (in ny name) very soon. The relevant politicians in the Parliament /Folketinget has got the Report (Elleve grunde...) but they are mentally infected by Corona...
The nothern Frontier
Erling  

Den man. 4. maj 2020 kl. 22.38 skrev Anne-Charlotte Moy <acharlottemoy@gmail.com>:

Dear Christoph,
thanks for your Draft

 I think we should not talk about "gardeners" if they are not directly concerned by patent on vegetables.

I mean in France (and in Germany, I just checked it) : patent have no effect if you grow your own vegeables for your private needs
It could be counter productive for all of us if we think we could not use or multiplicate our vegetables/seeds when we actually have the right to do so. When we have a right it is better to use it and not to ignore it.

Patent Gesetz
§ 11 Die Wirkung des Patents erstreckt sich nicht auf1. Handlungen, die im privaten Bereich zu nichtgewerblichen Zwecken vorgenommen werden;

thank you,

Le lun. 4 mai 2020 à 08:40, Christoph Then <info@no-patents-on-seeds.org> a écrit :
der all,


please see first drafts in En.

I think we can use the same examples for patent applications in both
cases (Yes and No), while the content of the PR has to adapted to the
decision in many other  details.

please send your comment till Thursday.

thanks! 


Christoph

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